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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 16:08:38 GMT
Not being a respiratory virus, ventilators are the wrong protocol. In most cases the lungs are damaged by the ventilator and the patient dies. However, hospitals get paid handsomely for their use. Hydrocloroquine and ivermectin work well but have been banned due to their effectiveness. You're still allowed to use high dose vitD3 and zinc, at least until the long term study results come back showing it to be effective. Around here, hospitals do patients the favor of putting them on oxygen for a little while and sending them home, where they typically recover. It's a good time to be cynical. 
The wife and I have been taking vitd3 and zinc every morning since this thing broke out. Masking up when we're out and about hasn't harmed us one bit. So far so good. I can't help but see more and more people around here masking up, too, when we're out and about. Wasn't always that way....What? Indeed it wasn't. The question is, what does that tell you? |
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 16:23:33 GMT
Where did I say I've done what you have described. In response to E saying it was a good time to be cynical, you responded by asking "doesn't awakening take care of that?" I explained why it doesn't. My point was that imo, it's not really all that intelligent to take the fact that the government is mandating masks and lockdowns as 'evidence' that there is an actual pandemic that is so serious as to warrant such mandates. That said, lots of folks are using that form of reasoning.
I have a feeling that peeps faith in their government and their 'experts' is going to soon dissolve. With all the political players now installed, there's little reason to keep up the pretense. I haven't given up on the idea that our country (world) can still be saved. Check back with me in 3 months.)  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 19:45:14 GMT
Doesn't waking up handle all that?
The wife and I have been taking vitd3 and zinc every morning since this thing broke out. Masking up when we're out and about hasn't harmed us one bit. So far so good. I can't help but see more and more people around here masking up, too, when we're out and about. Wasn't always that way. ...What? Indeed it wasn't. The question is, what does that tell you? It tells me more and more people are becoming more concerned about a potential health crisis. Why? Because Trump kept them in the dark about it. He refused to acknowledge it. But when he contracted the virus, what did he do? He went to Walter Reed Army Hospital to be treated. Do you remember that? A whole lot of people woke up with regard to their health when that happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 19:47:05 GMT
I was familiar with the new mRNA factor. I looked at Pfizer's website when all the media stations were going LIVE with the trucks leaving. The Pfizer lab is about 25 miles from where we live, and they're our distributor. Dr. Fauci held a news conference a day or two later and gave a thorough explanation about the mRNA vaccines and how they worked. We registered to receive the vaccine about ten days ago. I'm very sorry, my friend.   I'm not, my friend. This virus is going to get much, much worse before it gets better. they're describing another 100,000 deaths by the end of next month. Just for the record, that's half a million....... The choice is yours to make. I'm not here to tell you what to do. I've made my choice |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 20:40:25 GMT
I've totally missed your point? You've yet to make a point. Are you still a smoker? I gave it up for another's well-being is the point. I don a mask when out for the same reason. The point of my mentioning that 400,00 people in the US die of tobacco smoking every year is to draw a parallel with Covid; If prevention of so called 'unnecessary death' is the overriding goal, why hadn't tobacco been outlawed? My point is that there are glaring hypocrisies such as this one that are rife in 'the fight against Covid.' Are you willing to look to any resource other than mainstream media? If not, why? How can you know for certain that those sources are bogus until you take a really close look? www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/29/covid-19-linked-to-rising-suicide-rates-among-teens/
"The COVID-19 shutdowns have created a category of unlikely victims of collateral damage in teenagers. Inasmuch as 8 out of 10 COVID-19-related deaths are among people aged 65 or older, few would have expected teens to suffer disproportionately from the coronavirus, but increased rates of anxiety and depression among America’s youth signal a palpable threat from suicide. Survey data on mental health compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention depict a worrisome new trend among young adults since the onset of the nationwide lockdowns. Between March and June, suicide risk rose sharply for Americans across the board—perhaps not surprisingly, given the economic impact of the pandemic on American livelihoods." Why? Because I'm challenging your views?  I'm calm. How about you? |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 20:55:47 GMT
Tell that to a small business owner who is losing their business...losing their home because they were forced to lockdown....tell that to the mother who just lost her teen to suicide because of lockdown isolation. What number would you say is 'way too many' when it comes to Covid/lockdown related suicide? You've fallen right in line with the idea that Covid deaths are of greater importance than other kinds of death...have you taken any time to ponder why? Being conscious, living consciously, means being aware of mind's content....examining the ideas that most strongly inform behavior. Can you explain why it is that to you, Covid deaths are more important and should be given greater consideration than deaths caused by lockdowns? Yes, that's clear. But why is the question. What has you so convinced that there is a pandemic in play for which the mandated measures are necessary? Do you get all your info from mainstream media? Do you ever investigate/read further into things...do you ever search for medical studies...Covid data to weigh that against what media is saying? 400,000 deaths figs. If that isn't resonating with you, maybe it's time to recalibrate your mind. 10,000 children starving to death each month, Art. 400,00 people dying from inadequate tb treatment, 1 in 4 teens having suicidal ideation, overdose in general pop. up 4X from previous years... If that isn't resonating with you, maybe it's time to recalibrate your mind.
Most Covid deaths are in the elderly and the very sick. For the average joe, there's a 99.97 survival rate. Folks who are already in their latter years are the ones who are dying. Whereas, The lockdown is adversely affecting people of all ages, straight across the board. Why don't they matter?
"The lockdowns are causing devastating harm to both mental and physical health worldwide. A UN reportestimates that an additional 80 to 130 million poor people will suffer from hunger. Of these, it is estimated that lockdown restrictions have led to 10,000 children starving to death each month. Moreover, an additional 400,000 people will may die from inadequate tuberculosis treatment as a consequence of the COVID-19 strategies." |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 20:59:07 GMT
Something like that. The over 70 crowd skews the average down a bit. In any case, it's beginning to look like it's better than the survival rate for the vaccinated.  Hopefully you're wearing a mask when you find yourself in the company of someone in the over 70 crowd. Even if you've been tested and the result was negative, circumstances could change in the next 24 hours. It's the courteous thing to do for their well-being. Two of the three electrical contractors we called for an estimate actually came to our home without masks on. I masked up and met them in the driveway. They told me they wouldn't wear masks in our home while working if they got the job. I thanked them for their time and went back in the house. I'm not in my 70's just yet.... was I wrong to select a contractor who wore a mask when he arrived at our home? That is very heartening to hear. Folks standing up for their freedoms like that, despite hard economic times. We are doing the same with our painting biz. We announce right up front that we will not force our workers to suffer through masks as they work. So far, the majority of clients have been wise to the Covid scam, which itself has been extremely heartening to see. |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 21:02:42 GMT
There is no mass spiritual awakening is happening, it will never happen. It's the illusion that people like Enigma believes such a thing. How do you know so much about the future dream of infinite potential? If you pay attention to the real news, people around the world are waking up to what's happening and fighting back, even Rowan's electricians are refusing to play the game. It's really pretty amazing to see! It IS happening. Even on my fb page, I'm starting to see a bit of turnaround! 
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 21:04:41 GMT
Hopefully you're wearing a mask when you find yourself in the company of someone in the over 70 crowd. Even if you've been tested and the result was negative, circumstances could change in the next 24 hours. It's the courteous thing to do for their well-being. Two of the three electrical contractors we called for an estimate actually came to our home without masks on. I masked up and met them in the driveway. They told me they wouldn't wear masks in our home while working if they got the job. I thanked them for their time and went back in the house. I'm not in my 70's just yet.... was I wrong to select a contractor who wore a mask when he arrived at our home? Masks don't work, but I comply with my customer's wishes.What we are finding mostly is that the majority of folks who are up for having work done in their home, are onto this thing. Have you seen that too? Those who are not, are horrified at the idea of some stranger who might be Covid-coated coming into their home. Thus, in most cases, the mask deal isn't an issue, which is awesome. |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 21:09:01 GMT
Masks don't work, but I comply with my customer's wishes. Well, they're not an end-all be-all solution, for sure. If someone comes up with a better solution, I'll consider it. I couldn't help but notice the Trumper's at the course started wearing masks after the round when we totaled up scores and had a beer in mid-summer. We had a couple of doctors in the group that wore them. Lawyers, too. It must of had an impact on the rest of us."Virtue signalling" is a really big thing right now.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 21:11:20 GMT
The New mRNA COVID Vaccines Inject an Operating System into Your Body – Not a Conspiracy Theory, Moderna Admits It
In this interview, Catherine compared the new mRNA COVID vaccines to a computer operating system, stating that just like computer operating systems such as Windows, that there would be a “back door” where the technocrats will be able to control our bodies through regular “updates.”
I thought it was a brilliant analogy of what the technocrats seek to accomplish with this new class of vaccines.
Well, it turns out this was NOT an “analogy” at all! Moderna, the manufacturer of one of the COVID mRNA vaccines that has currently been issued emergency use authorization, has actually published on their website that this is true: the mRNA vaccine injects an “operating system” into your body that they call “The Software of Life.”
The Globalists have become so bold, and the human masses have become so compliant, that they are no longer doing these things in secret, but right out in the open for all to see.
Yeah, that pretty much answers the question of why we need a vaccine for a fake pandemic. Have you investigated adrenochrome? Until this last year, I've never personally seen PURE EVIL. This is what makes it all a spiritual matter. A little bit...but I've still yet to come across any source that I find completely credible, so currently on the fence there.....horrific and yes, pure evil if so, though. So much so, hard to even fathom.  |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 21:27:22 GMT
Do you understand what he means by "mass spiritual awakening"? He's not talking about seeing through separation, (SR/enlightenment) he's talking about a shift within the dream, an ultimate movement towards a tipping point, where more and more are beginning to see that the world's governments have a sinister plan in play.... folks en masse are 'waking up to this' and are standing up against it, uniting in their desire for personal freedoms above governmental tyranny....seeing that this whole Covid farce is really just a means to try to enslave the world's populace, under the guise of something they are calling "The great reset....building back better..."
I'm seeing so many in my midst who are for the first time, really looking at their deepest values....are seeing that they value freedom over safety....that they value quality of life....actual living, vs. living in a way that mitigates all risk from contracting a virus. Are you seeing anything similar in your life?
I've been shocked by many things this, just as you have, not the least of which is how deeply programmed we've become, and how intractable that programming is. Right now, we are literally fighting for our lives.Yup. This very convo I'm currently having, and the others like it I've had, often too with someone who supposedly values 'being conscious' is a testament to just how intractable that programming is.
So many who have bought into the Covid farce simply refuse to even articulate why they are okay with lockdowns to save elderly/sick people from Covid but fine with the fallout of lockdowns. They won't even look at the double-standard they are applying, and I do find that scary. So much of their stance is completely unexamined.
Hubby & I were talking about that this morn; Why some folks are innately curious and will always dig down to get to the heart of things, while others cling to main-stream narratives. It always comes down to the level of fear. (just as it does when it comes to SR)... Those who are heavily invested in the idea of a caring government that takes care of them and a media they can trust without question, depend upon those anchors to help keep the fear at bay. Absent those anchors,many would be lost.
The willingness to change and refine views as experience evolves is a rare human trait, but obviously, more important than ever....the huge numbers of folks waking up to see what's been going on over the past year (and lets face it, if you're seeing that, you're now seeing a whole host of shit that's been going on all along!) really does speak to a whole lotta folks who are willing to let go of their safety nets...and that really IS something to be celebrated!
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 21:37:53 GMT
...What? Indeed it wasn't. The question is, what does that tell you? It tells me more and more people are becoming more concerned about a potential health crisis. Why? Because Trump kept them in the dark about it. He refused to acknowledge it. But when he contracted the virus, what did he do? He went to Walter Reed Army Hospital to be treated. Do you remember that? A whole lot of people woke up with regard to their health when that happened. I actually saw a lot of people lose some of their fear....an older fellow, a little on the hefty side, not the best diet in town apparently, and in a mere two days he was up & at-em like nothing at all had happened, Trump was proof that for many, the virus is nothing more than a cold that will pass without event.
& I find it amazing how so many seem to forget that it was DT who went out on a limb & really early on, closed down travel between China/US and Dem's were taking him to task for that, insinuating he was racist for it. Funny how stories get revised like that after the fact.
"January 31: Trump blocks travel from China
Trump issues an executive order blocking entry to the US from anyone who has been in China in the last 14 days. It does not apply to US residents and family members or spouses of US residents or citizens.
The order becomes effective on February 2.
Azar also declares the coronavirus a public health emergency."
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 21:44:35 GMT
I'm very sorry, my friend. I'm not, my friend. This virus is going to get much, much worse before it gets better. they're describing another 100,000 deaths by the end of next month. Just for the record, that's half a million.......The choice is yours to make. I'm not here to tell you what to do. I've made my choice The wave of those becoming conscious to the manipulations of the powers that be, are also growing...and along with that, folks are also awakening to their core values....seeing that a life lived in fear of dying from something they have a 99.97 percent chance of recovering from just fine, is no way to live.
I asked you previously before you folded your account and left gab, how long would you be willing to live with these restrictions in place....another year...? An entire lifetime?
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 23:07:44 GMT
In response to E saying it was a good time to be cynical, you responded by asking "doesn't awakening take care of that?" I explained why it doesn't. My point was that imo, it's not really all that intelligent to take the fact that the government is mandating masks and lockdowns as 'evidence' that there is an actual pandemic that is so serious as to warrant such mandates. That said, lots of folks are using that form of reasoning. Cynicism gets one nowhere. It's a dead end. Why even say it? 400,000 deaths is pretty serious where I come from. I mean question what you see and hear, like that stuff about all the hospitals being full and 400,000 deaths. You're having trouble believing you're being lied to. Best get used to it. |
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I'm calm. How about you? 
I liked that too. 