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Post by Figgles on Jan 20, 2021 23:41:15 GMT
What an odd thing that instead of targeting folks in this population (who actually want to be protected) the governments of the world chose to shut everyone down...as I've said before, it's akin to draping the entire world in leather to protect your feet instead of just slipping on a pair of shoes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 0:05:59 GMT
Think about it. You can't have a lockdown unless folks comply with lockdown measures. It's the lockdowns that are contributing to suicides, death due to untreated illness, and needless suffering. If people keep complying, the lockdown continue. If lockdowns continue, the deaths due to untreated illness, the suicides, continue. No..? Are there any particular mandates you refuse to abide by? That's not what's at the crux of folks dying of untreated illness. And really, Hospitals have always been full to the brim when in flu season. Here's a link to a local story, note the year-- 2013: www.ctvnews.ca/health/health-headlines/hospitals-overwhelmed-by-flu-and-norovirus-patients-1.1108376 How dare they claim that hospitals don't have the space or personnel to aptly deal with Covid when they've had almost an entire year to get their ducks in a row. If there really is an issue with hospitals being overrun, that's nothing more than a governmental failure. That's not what's behind the issues I described. My kid's cancelled treatments were not due to a lack of space, but the ridiculous mandates that necessitated the Covid tests and the quarantining while waiting, despite no symptoms. Overall, that entire situation was the result of Covid deaths/illness being prioritized over their condition. RE: cancer & other deaths; Folks were so scared shitless by the MSM's fear-mongering when all this first took hold, many cancelled their routine screenings. (In some cases too, facilities closed down and were not seeing patients for testing/screening). Folks missed early screenings that would have caught early cancer & other serious issues early, when they can be addressed easily. Now there's a bottle-neck situation as folks are scurrying to get emergency situations tended to. Suicides and drug overdose are up because lockdowns destroy businesses, relationships, general enjoyment of life. The entire world has put basic life enjoyment on hold in bowing down to a virus that has a 99.97 recovery rate for most. I really don't feel locked down. We still go shopping, gas up vehicles, pickup takeout when we want it, we had a crew of strangers come into our home to help with a re-model...Get our hair cut...we pick and choose our times for doing such things...I suppose I could go on....but ....etc. I agree with the government failure. Trump was a ninny. Drink bleach, or take hydroxie-chloroquine... That's just plain stupid. I can only imagine what the health care thought about that suggestion. I understand the covid deaths/illness being prioritized. Detroit may never be the same again because they weren't prepared. Way too many covid deaths there. I think Reagan had a much bigger impact on suicides, and drug overdoses when he shut down the mental health facilities in this country. I dunno about the whole world and it's enjoyment, but I still enjoy taking a walk, or fussing around with this and that around our home, and chatting with the neighbors when the opportunity arises...etc. I agree things are different than they were prior to... but we've made the adjustment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 0:31:50 GMT
Cynicism gets one nowhere. It's a dead end. Why even say it? The point E made was that in being cynical regarding ventilators for Covid, folks were surviving it instead of dying. I'd call that 'getting somewhere' and anything but 'a dead end.' It's the ventilators that are the gateway to the 'dead end.' Did you know that's how many die in the US from smoking tobacco? Funny that there's no mad rush to ban tobacco, hey? But really, that number for Covid deaths is inflated by God knows how much. There's all sorts of evidence that death 'with' Covid was conflated with death 'by' Covid....even a story of a motorcyle crash where they tried to pin the death as "Covid." But even if it was that high, the total population of the US is 331 million...400,00 deaths, the average being age 82, deserves consideration for sure, but does it really warrant shutting down the entire country...the teen suicide rate....the rash of deaths and suffering that the lockdown has caused? I used to smoke. Haven't done so since 1991. Pat's mom came to live with us that year. She was 85 at the time. After much thought about that, especially her age, I gave it up. Personal choice. She lived to be 102. I don't know if it's been inflated or not. I sense there are more who have died from it than the previous administration was willing to admit. Yeah, I did the math, too. Came up with pretty much the same equation as you. The covid variants from other countries that are now arriving here have me concerned. Teen suicide.. we lucked out on that one. I realize it's a problem. Death and suffering will always be with us, covid virus or not. I was just put on notice that we're going to drive up to Grand Rapids tomorrow to donate a whole lot of books. Sounds like a good idea. |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 3:46:57 GMT
I really don't feel locked down. Tell that to a small business owner who is losing their business...losing their home because they were forced to lockdown....tell that to the mother who just lost her teen to suicide because of lockdown isolation. What number would you say is 'way too many' when it comes to Covid/lockdown related suicide? You've fallen right in line with the idea that Covid deaths are of greater importance than other kinds of death...have you taken any time to ponder why? Being conscious, living consciously, means being aware of mind's content....examining the ideas that most strongly inform behavior. Can you explain why it is that to you, Covid deaths are more important and should be given greater consideration than deaths caused by lockdowns? Yes, that's clear. But why is the question. What has you so convinced that there is a pandemic in play for which the mandated measures are necessary? Do you get all your info from mainstream media? Do you ever investigate/read further into things...do you ever search for medical studies...Covid data to weigh that against what media is saying? |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 21, 2021 3:58:51 GMT
I used to smoke. Haven't done so since 1991. Pat's mom came to live with us that year. She was 85 at the time. After much thought about that, especially her age, I gave it up. Personal choice. She lived to be 102. You totally missed my point. Do you feel compelled at all to look into that? I find it very, very strange that not being fully sure about that, you're in favor of mandates. Why are you willing to shrug off suicides related to Covid lockdowns but not death due to a virus? The suicides are happening because lockdowns, social distancing, masking up our faces so we cannot see expressions, is unnatural. Humans are social animals. Why are you okay with taking strong measures to prevent death from a virus in mostly elderly and sick people but not interested in addressing the issue of teens offing themselves due to lockdown? It is precisely the lack of conscious awareness regarding mind content that you are demonstrating here that I find so frustrating with this whole thing. It's as though basic common sense has just flown out the window for half the population.  These Photos Show the Staggering Food Bank Lines Across America
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 12:41:41 GMT
I used to smoke. Haven't done so since 1991. Pat's mom came to live with us that year. She was 85 at the time. After much thought about that, especially her age, I gave it up. Personal choice. She lived to be 102. You totally missed my point. Do you feel compelled at all to look into that? I find it very, very strange that not being fully sure about that, you're in favor of mandates. Why are you willing to shrug off suicides related to Covid lockdowns but not death due to a virus? The suicides are happening because lockdowns, social distancing, masking up our faces so we cannot see expressions, is unnatural. Humans are social animals. Why are you okay with taking strong measures to prevent death from a virus in mostly elderly and sick people but not interested in addressing the issue of teens offing themselves due to lockdown? It is precisely the lack of conscious awareness regarding mind content that you are demonstrating here that I find so frustrating with this whole thing. It's as though basic common sense has just flown out the window for half the population. These Photos Show the Staggering Food Bank Lines Across America
I've totally missed your point? You've yet to make a point. Are you still a smoker? I gave it up for another's well-being is the point. I don a mask when out for the same reason. Do I feel compelled to look into that? Of course. Am I going use resources like The Blaze in Texas, to do that? Of course not. You said- "Why are you willing to shrug off suicides related to Covid lockdowns but not death due to a virus? The suicides are happening because lockdowns, social distancing, masking up our faces so we cannot see expressions, is unnatural. Humans are social animals. Why are you okay with taking strong measures to prevent death from a virus in mostly elderly and sick people but not interested in addressing the issue of teens offing themselves due to lockdown? It is precisely the lack of conscious awareness regarding mind content that you are demonstrating here that I find so frustrating with this whole thing. It's as though basic common sense has just flown out the window for half the population.That's quite an indictment. In my experience, the eyes have it in a masked conversation. Teen suicides? Isn't that a family issue? Immature parenting? We've stepped in numerous times with the mothers and fathers when they were raising the grandchildren. Good lord... who the fuck do you think you are? Yes, we've seen the food lines where we live, especially around the holidays. We responded. We've actually been responding since '08, when we learned schoolchildren were going to bed hungry, and still are. Maybe it's time for you to take a break on the computer? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 12:55:30 GMT
I really don't feel locked down. Tell that to a small business owner who is losing their business...losing their home because they were forced to lockdown....tell that to the mother who just lost her teen to suicide because of lockdown isolation. What number would you say is 'way too many' when it comes to Covid/lockdown related suicide? You've fallen right in line with the idea that Covid deaths are of greater importance than other kinds of death...have you taken any time to ponder why? Being conscious, living consciously, means being aware of mind's content....examining the ideas that most strongly inform behavior. Can you explain why it is that to you, Covid deaths are more important and should be given greater consideration than deaths caused by lockdowns? Yes, that's clear. But why is the question. What has you so convinced that there is a pandemic in play for which the mandated measures are necessary? Do you get all your info from mainstream media? Do you ever investigate/read further into things...do you ever search for medical studies...Covid data to weigh that against what media is saying? 400,000 deaths figs. If that isn't resonating with you, maybe it's time to recalibrate your mind. |
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 14:40:10 GMT
Something like that. The over 70 crowd skews the average down a bit. In any case, it's beginning to look like it's better than the survival rate for the vaccinated.  Hopefully you're wearing a mask when you find yourself in the company of someone in the over 70 crowd. Even if you've been tested and the result was negative, circumstances could change in the next 24 hours. It's the courteous thing to do for their well-being. Two of the three electrical contractors we called for an estimate actually came to our home without masks on. I masked up and met them in the driveway. They told me they wouldn't wear masks in our home while working if they got the job. I thanked them for their time and went back in the house. I'm not in my 70's just yet.... was I wrong to select a contractor who wore a mask when he arrived at our home? Masks don't work, but I comply with my customer's wishes. |
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 14:44:21 GMT
Your sounding more and more like Nisargadatta when I read you lately...  There is no such thing as enlightenment, the realization of that fact is itself enlightenment. ~ Nisargadatta Maharaj There is no mass spiritual awakening is happening, it will never happen. It's the illusion that people like Enigma believes such a thing. How do you know so much about the future dream of infinite potential? If you pay attention to the real news, people around the world are waking up to what's happening and fighting back, even Rowan's electricians are refusing to play the game. |
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 14:50:23 GMT
Okay, I trust you.  Thank you! You're welcome.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 15:18:09 GMT
Hopefully you're wearing a mask when you find yourself in the company of someone in the over 70 crowd. Even if you've been tested and the result was negative, circumstances could change in the next 24 hours. It's the courteous thing to do for their well-being. Two of the three electrical contractors we called for an estimate actually came to our home without masks on. I masked up and met them in the driveway. They told me they wouldn't wear masks in our home while working if they got the job. I thanked them for their time and went back in the house. I'm not in my 70's just yet.... was I wrong to select a contractor who wore a mask when he arrived at our home? Masks don't work, but I comply with my customer's wishes. Well, they're not an end-all be-all solution, for sure. If someone comes up with a better solution, I'll consider it. I couldn't help but notice the Trumper's at the course started wearing masks after the round when we totaled up scores and had a beer in mid-summer. We had a couple of doctors in the group that wore them. Lawyers, too. It must of had an impact on the rest of us. |
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 15:38:38 GMT
It's not really a respiratory virus. It affects the ability of the blood to carry oxygen. Still, for the vast majority of people, the symptoms are mild. Given that the survival rate is something like 98%, the vaccine isn't really addressing the virus, which begs the question, what is it really for?
The New mRNA COVID Vaccines Inject an Operating System into Your Body – Not a Conspiracy Theory, Moderna Admits It
In this interview, Catherine compared the new mRNA COVID vaccines to a computer operating system, stating that just like computer operating systems such as Windows, that there would be a “back door” where the technocrats will be able to control our bodies through regular “updates.”
I thought it was a brilliant analogy of what the technocrats seek to accomplish with this new class of vaccines.
Well, it turns out this was NOT an “analogy” at all! Moderna, the manufacturer of one of the COVID mRNA vaccines that has currently been issued emergency use authorization, has actually published on their website that this is true: the mRNA vaccine injects an “operating system” into your body that they call “The Software of Life.”
The Globalists have become so bold, and the human masses have become so compliant, that they are no longer doing these things in secret, but right out in the open for all to see.
Yeah, that pretty much answers the question of why we need a vaccine for a fake pandemic. Have you investigated adrenochrome? Until this last year, I've never personally seen PURE EVIL. This is what makes it all a spiritual matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 15:43:42 GMT
There is no mass spiritual awakening is happening, it will never happen. It's the illusion that people like Enigma believes such a thing. How do you know so much about the future dream of infinite potential? If you pay attention to the real news, people around the world are waking up to what's happening and fighting back, even Rowan's electricians are refusing to play the game. That's incorrect. We hired the electricians who would wear masks in our home while working. |
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 16:00:59 GMT
There is no mass spiritual awakening is happening, it will never happen. It's the illusion that people like Enigma believes such a thing. Do you understand what he means by "mass spiritual awakening"? He's not talking about seeing through separation, (SR/enlightenment) he's talking about a shift within the dream, an ultimate movement towards a tipping point, where more and more are beginning to see that the world's governments have a sinister plan in play.... folks en masse are 'waking up to this' and are standing up against it, uniting in their desire for personal freedoms above governmental tyranny....seeing that this whole Covid farce is really just a means to try to enslave the world's populace, under the guise of something they are calling "The great reset....building back better..."
I'm seeing so many in my midst who are for the first time, really looking at their deepest values....are seeing that they value freedom over safety....that they value quality of life....actual living, vs. living in a way that mitigates all risk from contracting a virus. Are you seeing anything similar in your life?
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Post by Enigma on Jan 21, 2021 16:03:31 GMT
The New mRNA COVID Vaccines Inject an Operating System into Your Body – Not a Conspiracy Theory, Moderna Admits It
In this interview, Catherine compared the new mRNA COVID vaccines to a computer operating system, stating that just like computer operating systems such as Windows, that there would be a “back door” where the technocrats will be able to control our bodies through regular “updates.”
I thought it was a brilliant analogy of what the technocrats seek to accomplish with this new class of vaccines.
Well, it turns out this was NOT an “analogy” at all! Moderna, the manufacturer of one of the COVID mRNA vaccines that has currently been issued emergency use authorization, has actually published on their website that this is true: the mRNA vaccine injects an “operating system” into your body that they call “The Software of Life.”
The Globalists have become so bold, and the human masses have become so compliant, that they are no longer doing these things in secret, but right out in the open for all to see.
I was familiar with the new mRNA factor. I looked at Pfizer's website when all the media stations were going LIVE with the trucks leaving. The Pfizer lab is about 25 miles from where we live, and they're our distributor. Dr. Fauci held a news conference a day or two later and gave a thorough explanation about the mRNA vaccines and how they worked. We registered to receive the vaccine about ten days ago. I'm very sorry, my friend.  |
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