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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2021 18:39:36 GMT
I think it could go one of 2 ways...either as you say....the virus will go away. Or you will see more mandates, and begin to have to deal with all the frickin' propaganda about mutations that we have been dealing with in the UK for the last several weeks. What's the situation with the mutations propaganda in Canada Fig? In a choice between the 2, I'd rather see it go away for you guys, but....perhaps they don't have much interest in my preferences  I'm interested in your thoughts and also your perspective from across the pond. I think you're right about the two ways because the deep state agenda has been primarily to destroy small businesses, and something nefarious surrounding the vaccine, though the movement so far as clearly been toward diminishing or ending the pandemic for political reasons. Here in the UK, we've basically been in lockdown for 9 months. The summer was eased off to an extent, and there have been other brief periods in which some restrictions were lifted. They swap sometimes from a 'lockdown' to a 'tier system', and if your area has been well behaved, then you are rewarded with lower tier restrictions, and if your area has been bad, then you are given higher tier restrictions. Areas and tiers are juggled around, and people in different tiers might celebrate for a week, and then it's taken away from them. There's been animosity between the groups in the different tiers (''the government is favouring you'' kind of thing). It all serves to create fractious social tensions, in which people are focused on each other as being the problem, rather than turning their wrath on the government. There's a constant carrot dangled, and folks get to nibble on it briefly, and then it's moved again and folks lose hope. Psychologically, it bears all the hallmarks of abuse. Like a psy-op. I don't know if the politicians KNOW that they are being abusive, but that's what it is. The media are basically a mouthpiece for the government, and they let 'slip' the rumours ahead of the government announcements. We normally know what's going to happen even before the government have announced it. Our health system was struggling over the New Year period, and to be honest, I can't say I opposed a brief lockdown intervention, just to get the health system back on its feet again. But politicians and scientists are now gas lighting the population by telling them that restrictions could continue through the whole year. The vaccine was meant to be the solution, and people had a lot of hope in it (I don't want it), but now we are being told that it may not be as protective as they thought, and that it could be resistant to new mutations. We apparently had a new mutation at the end of last year, and another new mutation now. Fact is, I'm sure you know, that all viruses mutate, that there have been hundreds/thousands of mutations in the last year already....and that mutation isn't necessarily even a bad thing! IF the government wish to perpetuate an endless cycle of lockdowns and tiers, then I guess there will continue to be new threatening mutations that are vaccine resistant, so we have to be new vaccines. But many of the public are well and truly sick of it all. It's a sunny day here today, and I see people everywhere meeting in small groups and 'stretching' the rules as much as they can. On the flip side there is a militant section of the population that are completely lost in an intense kind of 'lockdown zealotry'. They like to say, ''New Zealand'' and ''Australia'' a lot. The zealots are a pain in the ass and fail to see that Australia and NZ may have certain 'freedoms', but that their psychology is fragile because they know their government could lock them up again, and fast. It's actually very hard for me to know who in our government here is just really crap at their job and is guilty of typical cronyism, corruption and ignorance.............and who is working more deceitfully towards a 'Reset' agenda. In the case of Johnson specifically, I just can't tell what he really wants. Part of me thinks that he has been brow beaten into locking us down and still has an honest libertarian instinct. Part of me thinks that he would do anything for an easy life and a pocket of gold, so would sell his soul for the 'Reset' agenda. I just don't know. The other aspect of the whole thing is that other countries are now successfully treating covid with medicines and remedies. This is something I pay a lot of attention to, and follow a lot of good people on twitter that report on the studies. Clearly in the UK and the US, the vaccine has been the be all and end all, and I believe that certainly in America, simple medicines have been suppressed and buried. In the UK, I don't know if they have been suppressed, or if our politicians are just too stupid to know what's going on in other countries. But, these medicines can only be suppressed for so long, it's a matter of time before they have to be acknowledged. And that could be the end of the game. A big study of Ivermectin (one of the drugs) is now underway in the UK, and being conducted at Oxford University. While I'm pleased in one sense the study is happening, Oxford have a conflict of interest with their own vaccine, and I know for sure that studies can be manipulated. So, we will see. What will happen in America...I don't know either. Do the Dems want to try and bully you into compliance with mandates? Or do they want the virus to go away and everyone can celebrate the Dems? Or could be some other outcome altogether.....I really feel like anything could happen right now. |
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2021 18:46:42 GMT
Just want to add a positive note, that yes, I fully believe a spiritual awakening is happening. We may disagree on the details of what that constitutes, but I am convinced there is one happening.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 23, 2021 18:50:59 GMT
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Post by Figgles on Jan 23, 2021 21:17:25 GMT
I can see that. I'm still sorry. Pathetic  Here, maybe you'll learn something tonight... (I doubt it...) zendancer post Politicizing a virus is truly a strange thing because a virus doesn't care what an individual's political persuasion is; it just searches for a place to replicate. What I've discovered is that people who don't believe the virus is serious only change their minds after someone they know (or they, themself) becomes seriously ill with the virus. Not only can it be deadly in the short term, but docs are now discovering that even people who contracted what seemed like mild cases with few symptoms can later have serious and unusual after-effects. One of the latest discoveries is what some physicians are calling "Covid psychosis"--full-blown psychosis that shows up three months after what appears to be a total recovery. They're not sure whether the virus attacks the brain or the immune system attacks the brain. Same same with cardiac, kidney, and liver issues, as well as diabetes suddenly appearing. The long-haulers are well documented, and one lady I know who got sick last April has never recovered normal lung function. This is nothing like the common flu despite what some people think. Our plumber was in bed for 12 days with a high fever, and he told me yesterday that even now, a month later, he is still having weird pains shoot through various parts of his body. The director of our local hospital caught the virus three months ago, and he told me that he's still not back to normal. In my previous post to ZD' below, I refuted this.
MSM is failing to mention that colds/flus have always resulted in rare, but well documented cases of lingering after-effects, psychosis, cardiac, kidney, liver issues, diabetes. This is nothing new at all and the fact that they are trying to pass off Covid as unique in this way should have you wondering and looking into why that might be.
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Post by muttley on Jan 23, 2021 21:40:54 GMT
Haven't taken the time to catch up reading here, will do that later. But did you guys hear about the new American troops in Syria that convoyed-in on the 20th? Sooooooo predictable!
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Post by Enigma on Jan 24, 2021 0:52:23 GMT
According to an article in Situation Update, Yesterday a private zoom call was held with attorney Lin Wood and retired military personnel (with at least one general) providing more insight to what is taking place behind the scenes in America. One person who attended the call — which Situation Update can confirm did take place and was real — put together some notes from the call. The following information is confirmed by the informant that all notes are accurate but has no link to anything because the call was private. There are now 250,000 Chinese troops surrounding us, 75,000 in Canada and the rest in Mexico. link |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 24, 2021 1:04:37 GMT
According to an article in Situation Update, Yesterday a private zoom call was held with attorney Lin Wood and retired military personnel (with at least one general) providing more insight to what is taking place behind the scenes in America. One person who attended the call — which Situation Update can confirm did take place and was real — put together some notes from the call. The following information is confirmed by the informant that all notes are accurate but has no link to anything because the call was private. There are now 250,000 Chinese troops surrounding us, 75,000 in Canada and the rest in Mexico. linkAnd Canada trained 'em!  |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 24, 2021 1:15:41 GMT
Had to drag this one over .....excellent points you are making here Andrew. (Gotta love those vague, odd questions from Sharon that get a 'lil more testy with each iteration ) |
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Post by Enigma on Jan 24, 2021 1:32:37 GMT
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Post by Gopal on Jan 24, 2021 3:20:52 GMT
Because my world is fabricated out of my own illusions! So improvement is not happening at the mass level . Not in your perception. Have you been paying attention to what Fig's world looks like to her?  |
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Post by muttley on Jan 24, 2021 3:58:23 GMT
Oh really? Would you like me to gather up the posts written on spiritualgab that addressed other posters on sites such as spiritualteachers? You know, the pithy tainted ones. Why aren't you addressing that hit and run ugliness when it takes place? Not a peep out of you when it happens. But you're happy to join in with a comment or two. Pithy. Just another kind of ugliness. I don't remember anybody saying "Who the fuck do you think you are" to the spiritualteachers peeps. The insanity of the constant wars in the history of Europe is, quite frighteningly and sadly, all starting to make sense now.  I mean, I thought I had a good idea of what that was all about, and that sense wasn't far off, it just wasn't far enough. |
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Post by muttley on Jan 24, 2021 4:00:44 GMT
A better solution to a made up problem? Stop believing it's a problem. Yup.
 as funny as it is true! .. but notice that it's just an old tube model. Seems they couldn't part with the flat screen .. just as well the impact is funner. |
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Post by muttley on Jan 24, 2021 4:05:52 GMT
There IS undoubtedly an awakening to the consensus trance currently in play and I think it's important not to lose sight of that because those in power ALSO see this and will be doing all they can to try to squelch this movement.....even using dishonest tactics like this to try to hide the evidence...important to remain aware that this kind of thing will likely be happening lots: There actually is a possible explanation that leaves Alphabet not-guilty, in that someone might have run up the dislikes with a bot. |
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Post by muttley on Jan 24, 2021 4:12:37 GMT
Holy shit!  .. I mean, it stands to reason that if the the way the vaccine works is, in Moderna's words: "Generally, the only thing that changes from one potential mRNA medicine to another is the coding region – the actual genetic code that instructs ribosomes to make protein." then it stands to reason they could combine a whole range of "side-effects" into the thing .. I don't know, and am incredibly ignorant about the specifics of RNA science, but my intuition based on my casual knowledge would suggest that they could easily slip in a sedative or an anti-psychotic, for instance.
Whoa! .. now, that realization blurted, we gotta' keep the genuine relative wisdom of knot-knowing as a tool in our arsenal! It's a powerful one! Cearallys! .. butt, I really ain't in much of a mood to trust these fuckers right now.  Pod people! All of 'em .. fucking Pod People!
I mean, it is sort of surreally comical .. and I really really don't know either way, but .. damn!  Me. A joint. Midnight. Re-runs. That guy. The '70's. |
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Post by muttley on Jan 24, 2021 4:15:23 GMT
And in terms of any virus or contagion out there, is very, very likely, actually "helping" to spread it with all the face/mask touching going on. I do a lot of work with joint compound dust, spay paint aerosol, toxic chemicals and mold, and surgical masks don't even help me get through a job. A properly fitted N95 mask probly will help with the virus, but it's hard to even get your hands on one of those these days, and there's been no warp speed program to make them available because it's not about the safety of the people. It's about control and politics. I've been saying the virus will go away when Biden's in office so that he can take credit for ending it and building up the economy, and already blue states are opening up restaurants. Yeah, that was one of the more cynical predictions of the alternative media, and they nailed it. |
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.. I mean, it stands to reason that if the the way the vaccine works is, in Moderna's words: "Generally, the only thing that changes from one potential mRNA medicine to another is the coding region – the actual genetic code that instructs ribosomes to make protein." then it stands to reason they could combine a whole range of "side-effects" into the thing .. I don't know, and am incredibly ignorant about the specifics of RNA science, but my intuition based on my casual knowledge would suggest that they could easily slip in a sedative or an anti-psychotic, for instance. 
Pod people! All of 'em .. fucking Pod People!